Friday, June 03, 2005

THE FLAWED LOGIC

Why would anyone smuggle drugs into Indonesia, which upholds the death penalty for such a crime?

According to the Sydney Morning Herald, for Westerners who live in Bali, buying marijuana locally is extremely risky, as the seller could be an undercover cop or police informer.

So, they will pay a premium to buy it off another Westerner.


YOU WANT MORE?
Hammer this to your skull.
  • Verdict was just, sentence mild: experts
  • Demand for Aussie marijuana was there
  • Brother is in jail for drug possession
  • Dad was fined for having marijuana

58 Comments:

Blogger kutubusuk said...

ho ho ho.. more facts and links please..

10:54 AM  
Blogger The Dude said...

dude, she's been found guilty. is this little kick in the teeth of a website really necessary?

i understand being frustrated at the media and the australian public, but are tasteless jokes really appropriate? even if she did do it, the poor bitch just got 20 years for making a stupid mistake. have some sympathy.

11:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that's the thing man, apparently there are still alot of rednecks aussie that thinks she's innocent and because Indonesia is a "turd world", brown savages, corrup scum who they would like to see in the bottom of the ocean, wipe out by tsunami.

I HAD to make this blog to SO THEY CAN FIT SOME REASONS INTO THEIR LITTLE HEADS.

so this blog is for them.

11:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree that Corby is likely guilty. But just as you can't blame a dog for barking you can't blame a redneck for being a redneck. That's just they way they are. They value emotion over reason. I say let them release their emotions until they realize that their release is ineffectual--and over time they will realize this. If you taunt them they will only get more angry and then God knows what they are capable of. Which do you prefer, virtually harmless symbolic boycotts or harmful things like bombs and anthrax?

3:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Her entire family has been cleared of any involvement with marijuana ever

3:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Owner of this blog,

I'm really happy that you put all evidences against Cotby in the one place like this, so people can see and argue if they dont agree.

I urge to both Indonesians and Australians to argue with rational explanations as we can find many truth through it, and not just wasting our precious time.

To blog owner, thank you and we're proud of you.

Salam,
an Indonesian.

5:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" dude, she's been found guilty. is this little kick in the teeth of a website really necessary?".

thank you.

i'm M.C. Brown Shoes, the one who put up the Jokes section on Wikipedia.
i think a sense of humour is applicable to the situation.
i am not sure if schapelle is guilty or not.
but you're just being downright obsessively nasty.

7:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, thanks for ur blog. this blog really voices my thoughts (which already become very complicated and mixed with exams =) haha)

by indo fella

12:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting case...It has not been generating that much awe in the US. But again it takes shades of color discrimination. There is a case against one Debra lafave in the US wherin just cause she is pretty she is potrayed as innocent(not by 97 percent of the american public like in australia...thank god). Law is the same for all. On the question of whether she is guilty or not...she is guilty. She would be arrested in da US why am pretty sure even in australia. The punishment she got might sound harsh when compared with US or Australian laws.

3:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CORBY IS NOT GUILTY!

MURDERSHOW.NET

11:05 AM  
Blogger Jeffry M Liando said...

so the aussies are actually the supplier of drugs amongst the westerners ?

MAKE SENSE. OBVIOUS.

12:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Massive error in fact....the half-brother is not in jail for drugs,he's in there for theft and burglaty.

12:31 PM  
Anonymous arjuna said...

Still it doesn't mean Corby's innocent. I know you'll say it doesn't mean Corby's guilty either. You cite Sir William something that says release 10 guilty is better than let 1 suffer. Well I say, let 1 suffer than 10 guilty escape since it's an irresponsable action make them escape and then commit crime to society, to other innocents. This is a different value between westerners who value individualism high, and us, the east, who value highly collectivism. Respect others, and everything will be fine.

we may argue the whole years, just dont insult others.

1:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow... looks like those crazy Indos are back at it again threatening to blow us up.


Here


So you blow up our tourists, you blow up our embassy, frame our citizens for drug smuggling, publically rally for their murder, blah, blah, blah...

But hey, at least we're not East Timorese...

2:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we're also not aborigins. ehm.

4:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

read that news carefully, they're not Indonesians, Azhari and Noordin M Top, they're Malaysians. Indonesians also the victims.

4:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the owner of this blog must be a hardline muslim. why else would you support a sham of an inodnesian judical circus?

8:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Awww man, indonesia hasn't learned its lesson from Allah! now they are gonna get another Tsunami Slam!!

8:20 PM  
Anonymous Andy said...

Why you people always give racist comments? We're talking about drugs here, can't you see the difference? Do you think it would make any difference if Corby is a moslem? Check out our jails and see how many moslems are in there! It's not about religion here... I was pretty amused by Kalgor's comments and i think he's pretty smart and not racist. This is so dumb, when you don't have anything clever to say, just shut up instead of making racist comments! Come on, you said that we're just "a third world" country, at least try to be smarter than us, ok?

12:31 AM  
Anonymous Belly said...

site looks ok to me! and truth an not hurt us surely?.
just seconds after the grass was found Corby crying openly was asked why are you in Bali?.
She said because I love my father.
ANY questions?

5:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry I should have read the whole thread first.
But so many here are unable to face the fact good looking women can get it wrong too.
Not likeing indos is no reason to set her free .
she is no angel nore are some in her family.
Australia should not suffer because of crims.

5:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Awww man, indonesia hasn't learned its lesson from Allah! now they are gonna get another Tsunami Slam!!

8:20 PM

my religion teach me, every disaster that come...It doesnt mean allah hates you....for ppl who are not moslem probably , cant quite understand abt this...

it 'll test value of your belief, love to your religion...
for example, if you are not moslem..when you'd get disaster...you'd be hate to the god or this nature...it's not the way of islam....

i was so adore..when i watched on my television
after tsunami disater...acehnese still pray in mosque although the had left ther families...they asked to god..god ..please us a strengthness for this disaster..
i believe it's your punishment to us ..maybe we forgot...

and it was so surprised
eventhough , almost all buildings had got devastation but mosques especially a grand mosque who has been aged about 10 century , still stand out without seriously damage

I think religion never teach us to hate another ppl who different with us.

5:40 AM  
Anonymous jeffry said...

Is this a fight between Anglo and Indo or Anglo and American ?

10:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be clear Jeffry, the British wouldn't like to be involved with this matter. Even not all Australians, only some who watch tv some much and love to see their soap opera. Americans are great.

12:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think that u all need to take a reincheck and compare facts on ppl who think that shes guilty and ppl that think shes innocent!!! Doesnt the australian law say that your innocent till proven guilty?! Well mayb if Schapelle was given a fair trial ie. finger prints being take!! she wouldve been proven innocent. Mind u how culd sum1 b givn a fair trial in such a corrupt country as Bali, its so hypocritical!! Its stupid, racist and uncessary websites like this that dont need to exist!! Mayb the owner of this blog should think about the ppl who truely, and heart feltly believe that Schapelle is innocent and get rid of this crap!!!!!!!!!

12:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm tired of repetition for presumption "innocent until proven guilty" for some ignorants like you. Please read your fellow Australian Tim Lindsey before you tell us that we have a different type of "presumption here". Fiuhhh I wonder that people use the same internet to be able searching for information but some fail to do that.

If you don't know what "prima-facie" means, I'll tell you: ask your lawyer! before that don't fool around and keep telling that Indonesia has presumption of "guilty until proven innocent", it's opposite mor***!

1:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FUCKING CALL ME A MOR***!!!! YOU FUCKING SHIT FACED PRICK WHO CANT SUPPORT SOME1 IN GREAT NEED OF SUPPORT RIGHT NOW!!

1:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BTW is this all ur able 2 type this is the 2nd time i've seen this posted!I'm tired of repetition for presumption "innocent until proven guilty" for some ignorants like you. Please read your fellow Australian Tim Lindsey before you tell us that we have a different type of "presumption here". Now who's the mor***??!!

1:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't type it you mor***, I just copied while wondering some mor*** maybe as ignorants as they are, failed to read it anywhere.

1:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Corby's camp has down from 93% Australians to merely 51% rightnow, said Herald Tribune. We'll see how many of you left after 1 month. 1%? hehehe...peace...kekekekekek

2:10 PM  
Anonymous Schapelle said...

"""FUCKING CALL ME A MOR***!!!! YOU FUCKING SHIT FACED PRICK WHO CANT SUPPORT SOME1 IN GREAT NEED OF SUPPORT RIGHT NOW!!"""

Thanks for having that great sympathy for me, I really appreciate it.

Love from Kerobokan,
Schapelle.
kekekekekek

2:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To my fellow Indonesians, here our deal, please don't use the term "Australians", better we use "Corby's Camp", as I'm aware that not all of Australians as mor*** as...as...as...duh...I'm afraid to continue... well, you know who..:p

kekekekek

2:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fucking awesome...

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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http://www.livejournal.com/users/escalfapolles/

4:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For Corby supporters, please accept our symphaty for what happened to Schapelle.

Best regards,
an Indonesian.

7:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bring it on, corb's...

9:29 PM  
Anonymous Kat said...

So what if her father and half-brother have been found to be in possession of drugs in the past? In the cast of her father, it was way back in the 1970s before Schapelle was even born, and he half-brother has been all but disowned by the family. Besides, possession is entirely different to dealing or trafficking.

Does that mean in your eyes she's guilty by association? Hah. I bet everyone knows someone who's been in possession of illegal drugs at some stage in their life.

10:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shouldn't you Indonesians be scabbing off of our aid right about now?

10:50 PM  
Anonymous pik said...

Your money for tsunami aid? for exchange with Schapelle?? Hmmm what good idea! I'm not Acehnese anyway, but I do care for them, and your offer should be considered carefully since it's for children who lost their family suddenly, children who still have their nightmare. Hmmm ok we'll think about it. Do I smell somebody's trying to bribe me? Ohh yeah, I forget, we're a corrupt country so it's normal if people from other country try to bribe us, they're not corrupt, aren't they?

2:14 AM  
Anonymous pik said...

I'm sorry Kat, honestly I never dealt with drugs possession, traficking, or knew somebody who's in possession of illegal drugs. Never.

2:18 AM  
Anonymous Ben said...

Shutup Kat you stupid bogan from Frankston, Campbelltown (insert bogan suburb from other Australian capital city here: ) or anywhere in Queensland. She was found guilty, she can get acquainted to that funky new cell of hers, not that it's much smaller than most inner city apartments in Australia, only she doesn't have to pay an excuberent amount of rent.
Now go back to being a typical australian woman, read your intellectually enlightening literature (cosmo) whilst waiting for your boyfriend/husband/casual partner to come back home from work (centrelink dole queue) so he can spear you up your little aussie twat for a few minutes before he makes his dinner of a couple of four n' twenties and watches the football replay before spending his time reading material on par with his level of education (FHM).

8:42 AM  
Anonymous pete said...

its good to see some lively intelligent debate without reducing to name calling and insults.

good work guys!

1:19 PM  
Anonymous Kat said...

Ben, I hate to disappoint you, but I'm a law graduate. What's more, I know how to spell.

Pik, do you honestly mean to say that out of all your relatives and friends, not a single one has touched an illegal drug at some point in their lives? How would you know for sure?

In any matter, the fact that two of her relatives have possessed drugs does not in any way make her guilty. To even imply that it does is both stupid and irresponsible. What if someone is related to someone else who is a murderer? Does that make them a murderer, too?

1:43 PM  
Anonymous pik said...

hahaha I don't want to get involved with Ben and Kat discussion.

anyway, Kat, I'm not sure but it's about knowing or not as you mentioned, and the answer is I don't know to have ... mmm s**t I forget, yes I know somebody during my univ days that get caught as a drugs dealer, especially marijuana from Aceh, but he got about 40 years sentence. Sorry for my bad memory.

As I mentioned I agree with you Kat for no relationship between family sins with somebody's.

3:26 PM  
Anonymous Ben said...

And being a law graduate makes you intelligent how? How are lawyers intelligent? People immersed in the study of science, particularly quantum mechanics, general physics and all streams of engineering are intelligent. Lawyers are mere bullshit artists whose livelihoods are built on human misery and conflict.

5:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ben, your arrogance and ignorance is mildly disturbing.

i like how you think attacks on people's intelligence is an acceptable substitute to putting forward any arguments of your own. kat has put forward a valid point, and instead of arguing against that, you have reduced to name calling.

perhaps your attacks on the intelligence of others is a diversion from your lack of anything intelligent to say.

as far as lawyers being mere bullshit artists: you are making a generalisation based on popularist opinion on the subject matter. considering that lawyers are the most vigilant protectors of human rights, industrial relations, the environment and other issues that are not merely self-serving, your comments are ignorant and offensive.

perhaps before you start calling other people stupid bogans, ben, you should go have a look in the mirror and ask yourself: am i a stupid bogan?

i hate to think the answer is yes, but i'm yet to see any evidence to the contrary.

7:31 AM  
Anonymous Ben said...

How can i be a stupid bogan if I am not an anglo aussie? I am also doing postgrad studies in computer and electrical engineering, which doesn't mean that I'm the smartest person in the world, which I am not, but means that I am more than adequate in my intellect.
Scientists have progressed human civilization and the understanding of who and what we are a hell of a lot more than your so called defenders of humanity lawyers ever have or ever will. Lawyers protect no one but themselves and their wealthy corporate mates who are the biggest and most corrupt of all criminals. The so called beacon of humanity lawyers seem to only protect the human rights of those that are worth anything to them. Lawyers are nothing more than opportunistic parasites.
And just in on the news, another suspicious package sent to the Indonesian embassy, yep, I am sure plenty of lawyers will jump to the defence of this psycho, pseudo-terrorist nutcase with their standard string of whining excuses as to why a blatant criminal is not really a blatant criminal, only so they can get their over-inflated heads on tv.
I send my regards to the prosecution team of the corby case and their wishes to implement the death penalty, keep on protecting human rights!!

8:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Lawyers protect no one but themselves and their wealthy corporate mates who are the biggest and most corrupt of all criminals. The so called beacon of humanity lawyers seem to only protect the human rights of those that are worth anything to them. Lawyers are nothing more than opportunistic parasites."

As long as you continue to make comments that expose both your arrogance and your ignorance I see no point in continuing to argue with you.

You are a fuckwit.

12:29 PM  
Anonymous Ben said...

lol, a "fuckwit", typical yobbo! Back to the local with all your bogan aussie mates or better yet, back to bali where you can be barbequed like the shrimp on the barbie that you are along with 88 of your fellow bogans!! Oh yeh and for OS X users, download the corby Dashboard Widget at http://www.geocities.com/tvhuangsg/widgets/!!!

2:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

getting hot here, between a normal Australian and Corby's camp :)

4:19 PM  
Anonymous BILL T said...

ben you are a heartless cock sucking filthy piece of shit !!!
why dont u come down to my local pub for a beer , a pie & a fucking flogging !! - how dare u speak of the 88 australians killed in bali.

crawl back inside your hole FUCKWIT.

9:18 PM  
Anonymous Ben said...

lol bill t good to see you are promoting your endearing qualities, alcoholism and violence. Here's a tip skip, shut the fuck up you incest ridden, retarted queenslander or you'll use all of your thinking energy before tuesday morning, dole day!! Can't skimp on the fortnightly forms mate, how else are you gonna afford to buy your 30 slabs of XXXX?

8:59 AM  
Anonymous bill t said...

ben aka FUCKWIT. im not a queenslander , not an alcoholic nor a dole bludger. just an aussie father who takes extreme offence to the pathetic degrading way in which u spoke of innocent australians who were unfairly killed in bali. - u speak of how intelligent u are , then keep to the topic & leave the shit out of it. its easy to hide behind a keyboard and think like a fucking neanderthal . why dont u forget about it & go suck another cock.

u truly are the FUCKWIT of the year.

11:18 AM  
Anonymous bill t said...

oh & FUCKWIT . feel free to send me your address & ph number, would love to come over for a visit. !!!

see u soon ben.

11:36 AM  
Anonymous Ben said...

Why are you steadfastly defending the perished 88 when there seems to be no sympathy for the 0.25 million or so perished in the tsunami? Would you find the ilovetusnami blog as offensive as my tactless statement or is caucasian DNA more precious than the mongoloid variety? Then again, one only has to look at the butcher's apron in the top left hand corner of the national flag to understand what you people are all about.

9:38 AM  
Anonymous bill t said...

oh fuck off FUCKWIT ! , i cant be bothered with or by you any longer.

dont forget to swallow, you monkey fucking !- vermon

7:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Jury is in. Australians have woken up - finally.

By ninemsn staff and wires


Ninety-three per cent of ninemsn readers who voted in a poll yesterday said they believed the latest allegations against the Corby family.

Of the 242,868 people who voted in ninemsn's exclusive poll, an overwhelming 225,937 said they believed allegations that Schapelle and Mercedes Corby were involved

1:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm curious about the current channel nine doco which followed the corby's for 4 years. This was an unbiased view which, in my eyes, completely destroyed any credibility the corby's may have had. Is it just me? I can't help but feel (from the corbys own display) that they are liars, dis-honest, agressive drug taking creeps. Don't get me wrong, I feel for shapelle. I really do. But this family, shappelle included, revealed themselves to be pretty low, and it seems to me that had they truely been innocent, then they'd have stuck to truth, honesty and absoluetly no, and I mean NO, falsehoods in any of their stories. Somethings not right here.

9:49 AM  

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