Boycott Bali? Boycott Australia!
From a very smart person that wrote on the comment on this blog:
Let us for a moment believe that Corby's claims are true, that an Australian in Australia placed the drugs into her bag in an Australian airport for transportation to another Australian airport to be removed by a fellow Australian baggage handler.
Said Australians therefore know that
(a). They have blown a domestic drug deal intended for Australia's streets and
(b). That a fellow Australian is innocent and is rotting in a foreign jail. Said Australians have had seven months to come clean and free a fellow innocent Australian from a foreign jail and from their collective consciences. These Australians however have remained steadfast in their silence, condemning a fellow Australian to 20 years of foreign incarceration.
As much as every bogan out on the street is shouting for a boycott of bali, I am finding it difficult to understand their logic.
Oh yes, it was the balinese that placed the drugs in her bag. It was the balinese that had not stood up for the Australian for seven months knowing all too well that their drug trade had gone bust, it was those evil balinese street merchants and hotel cleaners that have framed Corby through their silence.
Had any foreign national been caught with drugs entering this country and claimed that one had placed said items in their bags, would Australian custom officers react any differently?
I doubt Aussie custom officers would have a quiet chuckle with the accused smuggler and let them on their way.
The real evil are those Aussies that if we take Corby's words as truth, indicted her to a life of incarceration based on their cowardice.
The only logical step that the general public can take is to Boycott Australia!!
Ban Australia now for sending this girl to her hell!!!!
Boycott Australia!
posted at 9:46 AM
69 Comments:
Only a group of bad and smart people that can make this issue to get to be such a bilateral legal issue between two countries.
Indonesia has a strict law regarding marijuana whereas Australia, on the other side, has a soft approach on marijuana trials.
However, let's think about this. The soft approach on marijuana will never happen in Indonesia because Indonesia is a developing country, which never want to lose the opportunity to move forward. Indonesia believes that by softening any kind of drugs law may threaten the productivity of the society that may lead Indonesia people to a more lazy and poorer condition.
Sorry, I mean "never wants".
Mate, just out of technicality, if you tried to smuggle drugs into a country, why would you put them in a clear bag?
Surely you'd try to "hide" them. Am I right?
Mate, just a simple logic, what benefit Indonesia get for "framing" Corby?
And anybody who use her as mule surely would try to "hide" them. Am I right?
Mate you are a moron! Boycott Australia? Corby is INNOCENT. If anything boycott Qantas! why would a young childless person with the whole world ahead of her attempt to smuggle pot into bali? it's worth f**k all. forget wot all the ppl are saying! if you are australian, obviously not because u want to 'boycott the country' u may of heard on the corby special on channel 9 that another case had been brought forward to the government in 1996. where a couple arrived into bali, and didn't notice until they reached the hotel that they had a block of cannabis put into there bags in transit! they rang the australian authorities in bali & they told the couple to flush it down the toilet! how about you have some compassion for this poor girl, and support her! 96% of Australia do!
why would a young childless person with the whole world ahead of her attempt to smuggle pot into bali?
yeah great argument, GREED maybe? hah!
GREED?
WHAT ABOUT THE GREED OF THE INDONESIANS???
1 MILLION RUPIA AND A 20 YEAR SENTENCE?
MONEY HUNGRY HOE'S!
MATE SHALL WE ALL STATE AGAIN CANNABIS IS WORTH FUCK ALL IN BALI!
I COULD GET MORE $ FROM MY MUM, NOW THAT IS GREED!
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST CANNABIS MAN. SMOKE ALL YOU WANT. BUT DON'T GET CAUGHT.
DON'T PRETEND SHE'S INNOCENT, SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE'S DOING.
WHEN YOU SELL DRUGS, THERE'S RISK YOU GET CAUGHT.
SHE KNOWS THAT, THE SENTENCES IS NOT THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM IS THAT SHE'S GUILTY. PERIOD.
SHE'S NOT GUILTY INDONESIA IS JUST CORRUPT!
THEY DID DRUG TEST HER AND IT WAS NEGATIVE
THEY DID DRUG TEST HER AND IT WAS NEGATIVE
SO WHAT? IF SHE'S NEGATIVE IT'S THAT MEANS SHE DIDN'T BRING THE 4KILOS MARIJUANA TO THE COUNTRY
WELL YEAH GENERALLY IF U DEAL U SMOKE.
honey you can't really boycott australia. your indonesian you can't afford the airfares
honey, so what? she's still guilty.
Fact 1:
Schapelle’s dad stated that he saw Shapelle pack her luggage.
Fact 2:
Brisbane airport have sent a legal letter stating Schapelle Corbys bag was x-rayed whilst in holding, she did not have access to the bag again until after she landed in Bali. The bag was cleared for any prohibited contents and then transferred from Brisbane to Bali, via Sydney.
Fact 3:
Australian Federal Police (AFP) requested a sample of the weed she was caught with so they could determine where it was grown.
The Indonesian Police will not comply as they say they have tested it.. they said it is "marijuana" and that is all the information they require.
Fact 4:
The AFP requested to finger print the plastic bag the weed was contained in… the Indonesian Police have advised this is not possible as it has all their finger prints over it.. Not wearing gloves whilst handling evidence, sounds really obvious if you ask me.
Fact 5:
Schapelle Corby’s lawyers have demanded video footage from Bali airport, alledgedly showing Schapelle attempting to stop the custom officer from unzipping her bag. The footage was not produced.
Fact 6:
Gold Coast businessman, Ron Bakir, fowarded a sworn statement from an unnamed source which supported the claim of Schapelle�s innocence.
The statement supports that Schapelle Corby is a victim of Australian drug trafficking ring.
AS STATED ON WWW.SCHAPELLCORBY.COM.AU
OHHH FACT 2 IS MY FAV U INDONESIAN SCUM
Personally I'm partial to facts 3, 4, and 5 myself. Are the Indonesians afraid of the hearsay prosecution case being disproven?
Fact 1:
Schapelle’s dad stated that he saw Shapelle pack her luggage.
So what? Will a father said that his daugther is a drug dealer?
Fact 2:
Brisbane airport have sent a legal letter stating Schapelle Corbys bag was x-rayed whilst in holding, she did not have access to the bag again until after she landed in Bali. The bag was cleared for any prohibited contents and then transferred from Brisbane to Bali, via Sydney.
Somehow she did.
Fact 3:
Australian Federal Police (AFP) requested a sample of the weed she was caught with so they could determine where it was grown. The Indonesian Police will not comply as they say they have tested it.. they said it is "marijuana" and that is all the information they require.
So what if they don't produce it? It's an Indonesian case, what AFP got to with it?
Fact 4:
The AFP requested to finger print the plastic bag the weed was contained in… the Indonesian Police have advised this is not possible as it has all their finger prints over it.. Not wearing gloves whilst handling evidence, sounds really obvious if you ask me.
Again so what? What is obvious?
Fact 5:
Schapelle Corby’s lawyers have demanded video footage from Bali airport, alledgedly showing Schapelle attempting to stop the custom officer from unzipping her bag. The footage was not produced.
There is no security video camera in bali airport. The fact that the footage is not produced is not because that they are trying to "frame" Corby.
Fact 6:
Gold Coast businessman, Ron Bakir, fowarded a sworn statement from an unnamed source which supported the claim of Schapelle?s innocence. The statement supports that Schapelle Corby is a victim of Australian drug trafficking ring.
That unnamed source is another inmate in ur jail mate.
THINK A LITTLE BIT, IF ALL THIS IS JUST A INDONESIAN POLICE CONSPIRACY, FOR WHAT PURPOSE THAT THEY ARE DOING THIS?
So what? Will a father said that his daugther is a drug dealer?
Fair call, but seeing as a crucial part of the defense case is that she didn't know that the drugs were in her bag, you'd think the Indonesian police would want to look into this claim further if they were running a fair trial.
Fact 2:
Somehow she did.
Wow, compelling evidence. "Somehow she did", huh? Well, that proves it then! Idiot.
Fact 3:
So what if they don't produce it? It's an Indonesian case, what AFP got to with it?
Well, surely seeing as a fairly large part of the defense hinges on actions that the defendant claims took part in Australia, you'd think the police would like to follow that up with their Australian counterparts. Also, I would have thought if Schapelle was indeed guilty of drug trafficking from Australia that Indonesian police would have wanted to co-operate with the Australian police in finding and stopping Schapelle's source - unless you're claiming she grew that 4.1kg of marijuana herself.
Fact 4:
Again so what? What is obvious?
It's obvious that contaminating crucial evidence by putting police fingerprints somewhat removes any possible certainty as to whether Corby touched the bag of drugs - again I would have thought this fairly crucial in deciding whether she's guilty or not.
Fact 5:
There is no security video camera in bali airport. The fact that the footage is not produced is not because that they are trying to "frame" Corby.
Then why the hell aren't there security cameras? Surely that'd be able to catch drug smugglers out without a shadow of a doubt? Rather than just relying on the word of a customs official?
Fact 6:
That unnamed source is another inmate in ur jail mate.
Surely someone who's been locked up for connections to drug smuggling is more likely to have inside knowledge of drug smuggling rings? The Americans used a convicted forger (forget his name, but the one from the movie "Catch Me If You Can") to detect forgeries. Somebody with knowledge of what they were trying to stop.
THINK A LITTLE BIT, IF ALL THIS IS JUST A INDONESIAN POLICE CONSPIRACY, FOR WHAT PURPOSE THAT THEY ARE DOING THIS?
To "make an example" of this Australian. To act super-uber-tough on assumed drug smugglers whether they actually are drug smugglers or not. And hell, maybe those customs officials - who never took a lie detector test - are part of a smuggling ring themselves, and want to pin the blame on the Aussie so they get away with their own unrelated actions? BEFORE YOU REPLY: NOTE: I DID NOT SAY THIS WAS TRUE, IT'S ONLY A POSSIBILITY.
Fact 2. All luggage, states within the law, that they are not to be tampered with after being checked in with airport security, until such passenger arrives at there designated destination.
Fact 3. She is our citizen and yes the federal police should intervene
Fact 4. Corrupt corrupt corrupt!!! Any civilized nation uses extensive forensic evidence to convict such criminals. Therefre not using gloves to handle the evidence is CORRUPT!
Fact 5. What airport that deals with hundreds of ppl in transit everyday not doing with a security camera. Sounds corrupt to me! You take bribes on a daily basis i'm sure you can afford one!
Fact 6. The unnamed source was actually caught drug trafficking within the airport baggage area after corby's arrest. so yeah for a lighter plea bargain of course you would tell authorites!
THINK A LITTLE BIT, IF ALL THIS IS JUST A INDONESIAN POLICE CONSPIRACY, FOR WHAT PURPOSE THAT THEY ARE DOING THIS?
ONE WORD MY CORRUPT FRIEND... MONEY!
ONE WORD MY CORRUPT FRIEND... MONEY!
YEAH INDONESIAN SHOWERED WITH MONEY AFTER THIS CASE. U ABSULUTELY RIGHT...
your corrupt u would do anything for money!!! how bout u get on a plane now and come and suck my dick... i'll give you $1 AUD it can feed your family for a week!
ok, indonesia (in a totem pro parte fashion) is corrupt, (so what else is new? don't tell us something we already know). there, we put something on the table, so would you now admit that corby is guilty? no? tough deal eh? and i thought you people like to make deals, tsunami aid for our court to bend our law for corby cause some "a dog ate my homework" argument?
:)
I believe Schapelle is innocent and has a bad luck of entering Indonesia with marijuana evidence in her belonging. I negatively think that someone has put her in trouble. Next time, people should be more careful about this.
If you try to smuggle or traffic drugs into one country, forget Indonesia.
Or, if you want to put someone in a lot of trouble relating to drugs, try Indonesia.
You australian are yelling to free Corby. But do you know how many dead Indonesian fishermen in Australian jail??? Just because they don't know the border of Aussie and Indonesia? Even the aussie police burn their ships.
Double standard hah???? Shame on you :p
WHY AUSTRALIANS ARE STUPID???
Read this
http://mikepannone.blogspot.com/2005/05/why-australians-are-stupid.html
:p
“In fact, if Corby is doing this in Malaysia, she would be hung to death in no time.”
What if the victim was not Corby but another australian whose name is like this HUSAIN HAFIZ????
He is not young.
He is a guy.
He is not pretty.
He is sure that he is just a victim and definitely not guilty.
Would you do the same to this guy as you do to Corby?
Schapelle Corby is PURELY GUILTY, Yes she is as guilty as it appears at surface and deserves to be fired by indonesian armed forces, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT !!!
GO TO HELL YOU LUNATICS AUSTRALIANS, DON'T TRY TO HARM MY FELLOW INDONESIANS EVEN ON YOUR OWN FUCKING SOIL!!!!
WE HAVE MANY AUSTRALIANS HERE IN INDONESIA READY TO BE SERVED BEFORE THE INDONESIAN FIRING TEAMS.
DON'T TELL ME I DID NOT WARN YOU FUCKING AUSSIE !!!!!!!
uhh I'm sorry, I just want to say: Corby must be hanged!! any objection??
Don't be so harsh mate! Corby needs not to be hanged. She must be hanged twice hahaha...
Could we hang Corby rightnow please? I'm hungry...:)
Why those australian are so proud of their 96% anyway? It's been a tradition that they smug drugs... so what? 20 years is too good for corby anyway.... australians should be thankful for that =D And claiming they're civilized? LMAO. U guys are well known of being sooooo racist, especially to asians!
Anonymous said...
your corrupt u would do anything for money!!! how bout u get on a plane now and come and suck my dick... i'll give you $1 AUD it can feed your family for a week!
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Looks like this guy is terribly stupid in counting or math. Honey, $1 AUD won't even be enough to buy lunch! stupid!! Ever heard the word of "think" before? is this the same head that thinks that corby is innocent?
Anonymous said...
your corrupt u would do anything for money!!! how bout u get on a plane now and come and suck my dick... i'll give you $1 AUD it can feed your family for a week!
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Looks like this guy is terribly stupid in counting or math. Honey, $1 AUD won't even be enough to buy lunch! stupid!! Ever heard of the word "think" before? is this the same head that thinks that corby is innocent?
Yeah, like a dickhead who sent our embassy biological weapon. Corby must be hung.
Looks like this guy is terribly stupid in counting or math. Honey, $1 AUD won't even be enough to buy lunch! stupid!! Ever heard of the word "think" before? is this the same head that thinks that corby is innocent?
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Looks like this guy is incredibly stupid at counting past one.
Hint: You already posted once, leave it to the grown ups post next time.
corby must be hung?
wheres the evidence?
seriously finding 4.1 kgs on her is not a great argument!
where's the DNA?
Lie detector?
Security Footage?
This trial was handled poorly.
not enough evidence to convict!
So yeah she had it on her...
but why wouldn't the indonesians consider using the evidence from brisbane airport? there was no pot in it there from the baggage xray!
If travelling internationally u have bags checked at one airport and you don't see them until you arrive. and obviously sydney is not an international airport!
i respect indonesian law, but do indonesians respect innocent until no doubt proven guilty?
and obviously this was not the case!
retrial and we will see!
but someone told me if she does attempt a retrial they may shoot her?
in a developing country should this be right?
fair trial... NO!
if she is proven guilty, then yeah keep her! but its not a proven fact! shoot her if it makes u feel better!
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At 1:39 PM, Funky Fresh Freddie said...
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At 1:39 PM, Anonymous said...
I'd just like to know why you think these people are faggots and why you want more Asians to die. Please support your opinion.
At 1:47 PM, The Tsunami Rules said...
No reason needed. Fuck Asians.
At 1:51 PM, Anonymous said...
I think he wants all people to die. Niggers and Asians are a bonus though.
At 1:52 PM, The Tsunami Rules said...
Yeah. You've got the right drift.
I'm just glad the death-toll is so high as is.
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Well... it's true, AUSTRALIANS ARE RACIST PEOPLE! So proud of that huh? I once believed in schapelle, even frequently supporting her official site, but... being an ASIAN as you said, even that im not indonesian, i wish she'll get the punishment she deserves. And since you guys looooove tsunami, may one day you have one!
I bet the Chinese aren't too happy about the treatment by Indonesians. The East Timorese aren't too happy about the treatment by Indonesians. West Papuans aren't too happy about the treatment by Indonesians. Clean up your own country before you criticise Australia's.
Go tsunami go.... go after australians and australia, sweeping them all the way to HELL !!!
LESS AUSTRALIANS MEANS BETTER WORLD TO LIVE!!!
I bet the Chinese aren't too happy about the treatment by Indonesians. The East Timorese aren't too happy about the treatment by Indonesians. West Papuans aren't too happy about the treatment by Indonesians. Clean up your own country before you criticise Australia's.
OH YES AND I HEARD ALL OF THOSE ABORIGINES IN AUSTRALIA IS THE HAPPIEST PEOPLE ON EARTH I BET.
Look yourself in the mirror and clean up before u criticise other country.
WANKER.
Dear friend, it's useless to talk to an Australian. Everybody knows they are the most racist people on earth. They hate asians ,including us Chinese people, niggers, you name it! Stop using my people as an excuse! We know how to be treated as chinese in your country!
Ever got beaten by 7 'oz friends' when you came home from college just because you are chinese and your eyes are not big enough? True, Australians are not racist.
we dont give a shit before with Corby case. But you now make us angry Australian! And we'd like to organize public opinion to push the judges in the higher court give her a death sentence, not because of her guilt, but because of your behaviour that we don't like. Corby must be hung!
OH YES AND I HEARD ALL OF THOSE ABORIGINES IN AUSTRALIA IS THE HAPPIEST PEOPLE ON EARTH I BET.
Look yourself in the mirror and clean up before u criticise other country.
WANKER.
Dear self-proclaimed "wanker",
Aborigines in Australia have it pretty good. They may not be the "happiest people on Earth", but I am sure that they fair a whole lot better than the people that Indonesia continue to oppress. I bet most Aborigines have a better standard of living than even you. Your pithy response is evidence to the fact that Indonesians are the most racist, xenophobic people in the world.
raditya,
we dont give a shit before with Corby case. But you now make us angry Australian! And we'd like to organize public opinion to push the judges in the higher court give her a death sentence, not because of her guilt, but because of your behaviour that we don't like. Corby must be hung!
Thank you for your post. People can now see that you have no intention of being objective in your opinion of the Corby case. Your whole point is to degrade another country because your self-esteeme has been hurt.
Australia's anger at the verdict is due to the fact that the judges had to take the hearsay of a customs official as evidence. Then the judges said that if Schapelle couldn't prove her innocence, then she must be guilty. Surely you can be smart enough to figure out the major flaws in that system. If you can't, then people can clearly see why Indonesians are still struggling to attract investment into their country.
Surely the judges in all over the world cannot take HEARSAY OF HEARSAY as an evidence.
Doesn't my angry fit in well with you all mates? I try to keep cool with your insults to Indonesia, but passion has its limits bro. When you attack a country's embassy, it's an unbearable insult. I can take it if it's because of Bali bombings which many Indonesians're also embarrassed. Still I hold my passion, that's why I said "we" and "us" not "I" and "me". Why? Because you have attracted many attention now in Indonesia, and it strongly will affect Corby's case. I'm out.
BOYCOTT BALI????
Well in 2004 Indonesian students in Australia are about 20.000 students.
According to Melbourne Univ, standard cost of living of international student per month is: (in AU$ excluding travel allowance, visa, college fee, etc.)
- living allowance: $250
- lodging : $1000
- meals : $400
- insurance : $30
- books and supplies: $50
- person. expenses: $200
- local transport: $60
- tuition fee : $1100
So it makes:
AU$ 3090 per MONTH/student.
And per total per YEAR:
AU$ 741.600.000
I must remind you that international students must pay more than locals for tuition fee.
So, who's gonna lose from this boycott competition??? BOTH. You give us your tourist dollar and we give you our students money. Boycotting each other is not necessary and I consider it fool. Just dont be so arrogant, we need each other, weren't Adam Smith and David Ricardo told you about that?
I admit our judicial system is corrupt, every Indonesian knows that. But they're corrupt mainly in business settlement. For Corby's case they have nothing to profit. So it's not necessary to link this case with our corruption.
Our investment decrease because of many factors. The most important thing is the credibility of our government. That's why Japan will invest 10 billions USD more to Indonesia this year. (http://www.kompas.com/kompas-cetak/0506/02/utama/1790966.htm).
The most important thing is the credibility of our government. That's why Japan will invest 10 billions USD more to Indonesia this year.
I hope that the government is successful in ridding Indonesia of corruption. SBY seems like a good choice for president.
PT
Thanks PT, we Indonesians hope so for SBY. That's why we're happy when he came to Australia and everything seems gonna be alright.
Yup Kalgor, it's capitalism. I read that you have problems also in Australia to pay for univ since it becomes so expensive that some girls enter sex industry in order to get money. In Germany and France the problem is much lesser since it's free to enter univ even until doctoral degree. But the economic condition there is not so good rightnow.
The ilove.tsunami whatever blog simply substantiates the anger that these Indonesians feel. As an Australian, It hasn't taken long for the xenophobic, racist element to rear its ugly head. Apparently, short, slanty eyed people should not be able to prosecute whites but it seems ok that whites can prosecute short, slanty eyed people such as Japanese Chika Honda.
n 1992 Chika Honda was a 36-year-old Japanese woman working at nights in a pub in a satellite town north of Tokyo. One night, Mitsuo, a regular customer at the pub, asked her to join him and his brothers in a tour group holiday to Australia. Chika accepted, looking forward to her first overseas trip. She had heard of koalas and kangaroos. On the way to Melbourne, the group stopped over in Kuala Lumpur. A local tour guide, Charlie, a business associate of Mitsuo's brother, picked them up at the airport and took them to a restaurant before checking into a hotel. While they were having their meal, their van and their suitcases inside it were stolen. Charlie told the group to check into the hotel and wait until he sorted things out.
The next morning, he returned with their belongings and a new set of suitcases, explaining that their luggage had been slashed with a knife. Most of the contents had been left intact, so the new suitcases were packed. When the group arrived in Melbourne, customs found 13kg of heroin in the lining of their suitcases. Chika and the others were arrested, investigated, charged and later tried and sentenced.
Many events resulted in Chika's plea of innocence not being heard: inadequate interpreters during the investigation and trial, unknown to investigators; a jury and the judge who did not understand Japanese; inaccurate Melbourne media reports about "a Japanese mafia syndicate"; the trial of all five in the tour group at once due to cost cutting measures; and legal aid lawyers advising the accused not to take an individual stand during the court case in case it disadvantaged the others.
Chika's life in prison began without any English. She became depressed and suffered panic attacks. When her application to the Supreme Court failed and all other legal avenues to prove her innocence failed, she tried to kill herself by slashing her wrist in the middle of the night.
The i.lovetsunami blog is the ravings of a typical, lower class rubbish person who has latched on to the corby drama like the leech that he/she is. We all know that this person cares not for the plight of corby, he/she is simply using her ordeal as an excuse for his/her greater hatred of non-whites. He/she seems to be of the nordic persuasion , which with not much suprise is the most racist and backwards of all pre-Christian European pagan belief systems. Unfortunatley for the nordics, they were still procreating with wild boars and communicating via mere grunts whilst the "nigger" societies such as the Ancient Ethiopians had produced literature and centres of learning even before the ancient Egyptians. At this stage of proceedings, the nordic parasites had just discovered carnal pleasures such as incest and beastiality in their illiterate, backwards society.
Therefore, do not heed the words of a nordic ignoramus whose race can only claim to have produced rape, stupid fairy tales about a man in the clouds with a big hammer and stupid hats that idiot swedish tennis supporters wear.
And to the poster that claims that Aborigines are treated well here, life expectancy and incarceration figures, specifically in states such as Queensland and Western Australia tell a different tale. Oh yes, mandatory sentencing is beneficial for Aboriginal people somehow!!
And to the poster that claims that Aborigines are treated well here, life expectancy and incarceration figures, specifically in states such as Queensland and Western Australia tell a different tale. Oh yes, mandatory sentencing is beneficial for Aboriginal people somehow!!
Life expectancy amongst Aboriginal Australian people are about 15 to 20 years below non-Aboriginal. White Australians are expected to live for about a little over 80 years. Aboriginal life expectancies have increased since Europeans arrival. Aborigines wouldn't have survived up to 50 years of age before European help, because of a lack of medicines and malnutrition. Indonesians live for about 65 to 70 years, which isn't much longer than Aboriginal Australians. The difference in life expectancy can be attributed to higher smoking and alcohol consumption rates amongst Aboriginals.
Let's not forget that Aborigines are given more money than non-Aboriginal Australians for things like student allowances, or student accommodation support. Aborigines are given less jail time for the same offences than non-Aborigines. Aborigines are treated leniently for making racist statements, while non-Aborigines (particularly white Australians) are severely reprimanded. Though incarceration rates of Aborigines are higher, Aborigines are also found to be committing a lot more crimes to warrant lax punishment. What do you expect? Do you really think that police should not arrest Aborigines for committing crimes?
THE ABORIGINES ARE ALL FINE BEFORE U SO CALLED 'AUSTRALIAN' CAME ALONG.
stop it guys, Indonesians, Australians, get over it!
life expectancy is only one among many indicators of individual welfare. Freedom also, not to mention opportunity cost. Can you imagine Australians, if there's no Europeans in Australia and they own their country, they can make arrangement about oil and other natural resources with Japaneses, and get wealthier ever, maybe wealthier than our Brunei counterparts. You don't know the fact that East Timor facilities are much better than West Timor. The reason they want to be independence from us is because you Australians whispered in their ears that they have abundant of oil and gas that they could have the benefit if they cooperate with you. Everybody knows it. So dont teach us about life expectancy. Murder? How about civil war in US? Why didnt they just let the southern states independece? What ever the reason which I feel pity about crime against humanity, I guess you must take a mirror first before telling others, not to mention Chika Honda. A primitive court? Who?
BOYCOTT BALI????
Well in 2004 Indonesian students in Australia are about 20.000 students.
According to Melbourne Univ, standard cost of living of international student per month is: (in AU$ excluding travel allowance, visa, college fee, etc.)
- living allowance: $250
- lodging : $1000
- meals : $400
- insurance : $30
- books and supplies: $50
- person. expenses: $200
- local transport: $60
- tuition fee : $2000
So it makes:
AU$ 3740 per MONTH/student.
And total per YEAR for 20.000 students:
almost AU$ 1 billion
I must remind you that international students must pay more than locals for tuition fee.
So, who's gonna lose from this boycott competition??? BOTH. You give us your tourist dollar and we give you our students money. Boycotting each other is not necessary and I consider it fool. Just dont be so arrogant, we need each other, didn't Adam Smith and David Ricardo tell you about that longtime ago?
"Fact 1:
Schapelle’s dad stated that he saw Shapelle pack her luggage."
WELL HE IS HER FATHER.
Fact 2:
"Brisbane airport have sent a legal letter stating Schapelle Corbys bag was x-rayed whilst in holding, she did not have access to the bag again until after she landed in Bali. The bag was cleared for any prohibited contents and then transferred from Brisbane to Bali, via Sydney."
IS THIS STORY TRUE? THE FACT IS THAT THE SAME BRISBANE AIRPORT AND QANTAS WHICH COULDN'T GIVE RECORD OF CORBY'S BAG WEIGHT WHEN SHE CHECKED IN.
"Fact 3:
Australian Federal Police (AFP) requested a sample of the weed she was caught with so they could determine where it was grown. "
WITH THOSE HYDRPHONIC BANANA SIZE, THEY ABSOLUTELY COME FROM AUSTRALIA. WHAT THE FUSS?
"Fact 4:
The AFP requested to finger print the plastic bag the weed was contained in… the Indonesian Police have advised this is not possible as it has all their finger prints over it.. Not wearing gloves whilst handling evidence, sounds really obvious if you ask me."
IS IT REALLY NECESSARY? HOW ABOUT IF SHE USED HAND GLOVES WHEN SHE PUT IT IN?
"Fact 5:
Schapelle Corby’s lawyers have demanded video footage from Bali airport, alledgedly showing Schapelle attempting to stop the custom officer from unzipping her bag. The footage was not produced."
THE CUSTOM OFFICER DON'T HAVE ANY MOTIVE TO TELL UNTRUTH IN THIS CASE. IN FACT HIS LIFE MORE MISERABLE BECAUSE OF THIS CASE (BECAUSE HE BECOMES BUSIER :))
"Fact 6:
Gold Coast businessman, Ron Bakir, fowarded a sworn statement from an unnamed source which supported the claim of Schapelle�s innocence.
The statement supports that Schapelle Corby is a victim of Australian drug trafficking ring."
IT'S PROVEN AS A HEARSAY OF HEARSAY. THE SAME RON BAKIR ALSO WHO ALLEGED THAT THE JUDGES ASKED HIM FOR MONEY AND THAN HE WROTE A LETTER TO SAY SORRY. COCKROACH TYPE PERSON. I WONDER WHY YOU BELIEVE THIS BANKRUPTED SALESMAN.
despite having big boobs and blue eyes, schapelle is such an average woman. for god's sake, forget her and try to fight for someone else who is more attractive. she's not worth it you see.
well Kalgor, you're an intelligent person. That's why your postings always seem objective to me. This case has already consumed a lot of my time, I'd like to get it over. But your posting intriguing me to reply. About US civil war and Indonesia, I consider East Timor (half of them) tried to separate from Indonesia as an almost similar case with US civil war in ONE point of view, in which as the US Northern states don't want to let the Southern states to be independence, Indonesia also don't want to let East Timor to be independence. Do you know that they have killed each other in 1970s, that's why Indonesia (with support from US and AUS) invade that country tried to stop blodshed? Surely there're always victims like your journalists, it's war there! And the militant you call them, they also East Timoreses, while Indonesian soldiers let militant to wage war with their fellow Timorese is normal, they want ET to be always part of Indonesia, we have interest there, especially after we build many facilities. You cannot let people just walk away after they have lunch in your resto. And after AUS soldiers came, they let the pro-independence to do revenge to their fellow militants. You didn't do a better way in fact. And after those humanity aids, AU govt just take away their oil, how smart? It's always like that buddy, the US help us gain our Papua just because they want our mining that now controlled by Freeport mining co. US thinks that dealing with us is pretty easier than with the Dutch. Always the same.
As for the fake powder. If it's Indonesian who sent it, do you think that he'd like to use Indonesian language and post it from post office in front of his house? Ohh c'mon Kalgor, I know you're smart. As you also aware that many Australians can speak and write in Indonesian language, and going far away to that area is not a big deal rather than getting caught. Does it make sense to you? C'mon buddy...
Gimme a break kalgor. Anglo Aussies feel threatened by immigrants. This whole argument of anglo aussies wanting others to assimilate is absolute bollocks. The vast majority have assimilated and are scorned by the host anglos who mock their attempts at being "fair dinkum" aussies. Yes, they want ethnics to assimilate then when they try, they are derided as being tryhard, non genuine aussies who look stupid.
And regarding all these so called ethnic "crimes", the majority of melbournes gangland criminals have surnames such as Williams and Smith, that sounds really ethnic to me, not to mention the three teenagers in toowoomba who bludgeoned and raped their victims to death, Martin Bryant, thats an ethnic name, the king street murders, corporate/political criminals and the biggest criminals sittin in a big building on capital hill.
If anything, ethnic crimes are reactionary due to the host society's continual derision and scorn at the percieved lack of "assimilation" coupled by the actual, threatening nature of assimilated ethnics out-Australianing the so called, real aussies. The vast majority of serious crimes involving rape and murders are committed by aussies themselves.
Secondly, Australians when moving overseas are the least assimilated peoples on earth. They actively refuse to adapt to their host nation, creating enclaves with aussie only pubs, bars and clubs, aussie style food (a misnomer in itself) and facilities to enjoy aussie sports such as AFL.
And to the poster blabbing on about the improvements of aboriginal life expectancy, yes, they should bow down to us because we extended their life expectancies over the past 200 years by 10 odd years whilst our own lives have been extended by at least 30!!
Aborigines are only ever respected in this country if they become the circus monkeys that the anglos make them out to be as Australian Rules Footballers and rugby league footballers. Yes, lets be proud that our nation has its own tacticless form of football that is apprarently so brilliant, that it hasn't even been able to be exported successfully to New south Wales, let alone overseas. That is the only claim to fame these anglos have and they still fail, oh yes they must all assimilate!!!
Yup we're off subject now :) As for aborigins, I dont have any valid information about them, how they live, etc. since I havent made any research on this subject. However, it's interesting for me about "life expectancy", as you mention life exp. in your country is about 90 yrs in average. Well, there's many discussions about it as for myself and many of my friends maybe 70 yrs is enough. The most important thing is not about the longer life itself bt rather make our life useful and colourful. You may agree with it if you like to read Hemingway.
As about racism in Australia, I also don't have any idea since I've never been there. But what I heard it's not really good. I wonder why. I know things like that happens anywhere. I study in western Europe now, speak their language as well as English. It's easy to dislike Coloured skins here as many crime are commited by them. You know why? it's mainly because of poverty. However, I know among the Europeans, the English is the least racist as you may aware too. So sometimes I wonder why Americans and Australians as countries derived by English culture have long history of racism.
English language is also interesting. You're lucky guys taken for granted this language. As you may aware too that English becomes widely use because the US is the actual winner of WW 2 (before, the language of diplomatic is French). If not, half of us speak Germany and we in Asia Pacific speak Japanese now.
Well what ever the case, I'm happy that some of you dont narrowmindedly blame a whole country because of this Corby's case. After 1960s, many Australians come to Bali, and this case just happens once while others are safe. So pls do come if you feel comfortable as you have your right also not to come, and we surely thank you for your donation to our fellow tsunami victims, it means a lot for them as for me too.
The thing is, Indonesia relies on Australia for tourism, imports, military training/equipment etc., not to mention forgein aid because they're too poor to provide for their own people.
Whereas Indonesia is about as useful to us as a sore tooth. Boycott us all you want - I can't wait to see you suffer.
Jess, I'm sure you're an educated people, please provide us with your data like many of us Indonesians do here, I bet you haven't read the import-export data between our country so that you make your comment. Military training? Since when? With the US? yup! But with Australia? Do read raditya comment on our student in your country. Please my friend, we need more clever comments.
I mean "cleverer"
How can 20,000 Indonesian students spend over $740 million in Australian unversities every year? That's about $37,000 every year for every Indonesian student. $37,000 is the equivalent of a reasonably decent year's salary for a worker. I can't imagine over $37,000 being the average figure of what Indonesian students spend, let alone having 20,000 students spend that much. I could imagine the richest top 1% of the 20,000 Indonesian students spending that much at expensive Australian universities, but I see no way that 99% of others would.
Actually, Australia does help the Indonesian military. My father was in the Navy and saw our officers training Indonesian men.
anonymous,
raditya can only use official standard of living since he couldn't take individual surveys. Let straight it out, even only half of that amount making it about AUD 500 millions, it's much, and each year not once. But our point is, boycott isn't necessary, we both will be lost, we're not only competing each other in this era of globalization but with other countries and if Indonesians can take advantage of your high quality education without fear any racism acts, why not? and you can also enjoy our Bali, why not? thousands Australian tourists have come to Indonesia since 1960s or perhaps earlier, how many case then like Corby's?
Kat, it's called military cooperation. We have also many military officers from Malaysia, Spore, and other many countries here. But we never say that those countries depends so much on us militarily. For us to US, yes! It's important for us to have military trainings from US since many of our weapons are bought from them. No make no mistake.
tuition fee for graduate studies in Melb uni is between 9,000 - 13,000 AUD per semester (6 months), many Indonesians take not only bachelor degree but also master and doctoral. So the average is about 20,000 AUD per year.
Indonesians who work in Australia also pay the same amount tax as locals do. They must pay tax because they work, not because they enjoy Australian education, both for locals and foreigners.
Hi Kalgor,
Hahaha I have no idea, I haven't paid any tax yet :) But surely less than you pay in Oz.
Following several articles on the internet, Ms Corby's supporter sometimes refers to the baggage handlers in Australian airports, as the ones who should responsible to plan the drug into her scabby board. They would to inform us that the Australian airports are not safe since there are drugs mafia operating in such place, randomly pick passenger's baggages and using it as mule to transport their drugs. So, it seems to me the Australian airports are the most dangerous place in the world , where you might find yourself carrying a bag of canabis without your consent and caught by the Australian police. I think we should consider traveling to and between Australian airport as a very good choice to ruin your life, and we should ban to travel to Australia, until the Airports are clear from such illegal activities...
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