I think Schapelle Corby is GUILTY
From what I read I just know that Schapelle Corby is GUILTY
posted at 12:39 PM
Monday, May 30, 2005
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posted at 12:39 PM
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you would be a wanker pal did you not watch 60 minutes and see other cases of people arriving in bali only to open their bags and find drugs get a life !!!!
Just like the Lindy Chamberlain case every "Australian" is quick to point the finger at quilty or not. Stop throwing mud and look at the facts. Why take drugs to Bali? Worth a fraction of what they would be worth in Australia! 60 minutes shows us how other innocent Australians have been though the same scenario finding drugs in their possession that they did not put there. Have some sense and compassion. How would you feel if this was your sister or relative and you knew she was innocent only to have received a 20 year sentence for something she did not do. Someone here in the corrupt baggage handling system knows who is responsible.
corby took drugs to bali to sell the drugs in Bali. her sister live in bali. her father is a convicted drug dealer.
australian marijuana is better, pot-headed aussie is abundant in bali.
can u people open ur eyes? do u believe everything 60 minutes tell u?
The Australian media has never proven itself to be factual and unbiased. Whilst we certainly hear of these other surprise drug packages in luggage, my inclination is that there is insufficient evidence from either direction to draw a guilty/not guilty conclusion. Sure, she got caught red-handed but none of it makes sense. Whether it would sell well in Bali because of its higher grade, etc. there's a bigger Australian market than an international market. But at the same time, if it makes for an easier sale, then volume sales of the stuff could actually make it more profitable in Bali. That's only touching on one point but overall, it just doesn't add up to me. I don't bother listening to any of the media crap in this world. Every country I've travelled to has always been biased - some more than others but never immune.
HEY MORON!
MERCEDES LIVES ON THE GOLD COAST!NOT BALI!
IF CAUGHT CARRYING 2G OF CANNABIS, YOU ARE NOT LEGALLY CHARGED AS A 'DRUG DEALER'. COME ON HOW MANY PPL SMOKED IN THE 60'S/70'S!
AUST CANNABIS MAY BE BETTER. BUT IT IS NOT WORTH GETTING CAUGHT OVER! SO OBVIOUSLY SHE WAS SET UP! PLUS IT'S WORTH NOTHING TO HER. A GIRL WITH ALOT OF SAVINGS IN HER ACCOUNT WOULDN'T GO TO BALI TO SELL SOMETHING SHE COULD GET BETTER $ FOR OVER HERE!
CAN U OPEN YOUR EYES, OR MAYBE GET THEM CHECKED!
60 MINS MAY NOT ALWAYS BE RIGHT. BUT SOMEONE WHO READS PEOPLE'S BODY LANGUAGE FOR A LIVING SHOULD KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT!
HOW ABOUT YOU JOIN THE REST OF THE 96% OF THE NATION AND SUPPORT CORBY!
IS THIS DARRYL HINCH?
IF SO YOUR A WANKER!
IF CAUGHT CARRYING 2G OF CANNABIS, YOU ARE NOT LEGALLY CHARGED AS A 'DRUG DEALER'. COME ON HOW MANY PPL SMOKED IN THE 60'S/70'S!
YES YOU ARE IF YOU IN INDONESIA. STOP SO GOD DAMN ARROGANT. RESPECT OTHER COUNTRY LAW, WHAT A WANKER!
ARGH SO WE HAVE ESTABLISHED... THE WRITER OF THIS BLOG ^^^ IS AN UNEDUCATED INDONESIAN MONEY HUNGRY SON OF A BITCH JUST LIKE THE JUDGE!
HOW ABOUT YOU GO BACK TO YOUR CORNER SUCK A LITTLE MORE DICK BE4 U FALL DOWN THE DEEP DARK HOLE BECAUSE US AUSSIES ARE NOT SUPPORTING INDONESIA FINANCIALLY ANYMORE!
WELL 96% OF US ANYWAY!
I GUESS YOU COULD BUY A FEW SEEDS WITH THE 4%
BECAUSE US AUSSIES ARE NOT SUPPORTING INDONESIA FINANCIALLY ANYMORE!
GOOD, DON'T! INDONESIAN DON'T WANT YOUR DRUGS MONEY!
GOOD, DON'T! INDONESIAN DON'T WANT YOUR DRUGS MONEY!
THATS WHY YOU ARE SITTING ON CROPS TO MAKE HEROIN!
You are a fucking cunt and I hope you get framed for drug trafficking.
Bastard.
yeah actually i'm sitting here shooting up and smoking my bongs!
and fuck its great...
indonesia suck my dick!
and we're here, in Kerobokan, fuck our sweet Schapelle rightnow hahahaha, wanna try Aussie? you must come here! hahahahaha..
corby is getting buttfucked as we speak...
A spiritual leader in Indonesia was ACCUSED of planning the Bali bombing. Shouldn't he be serving life in prison by now, instead of 30 months jail? Remember, Indonesia has a justice system that if you are accused of a crime, you are already guilty. Come on Indonesia, be consistent.
A spiritual leader in Indonesia was ACCUSED of planning the Bali bombing. Shouldn't he be serving life in prison by now, instead of 30 months jail? Remember, Indonesia has a justice system that if you are accused of a crime, you are already guilty. Come on Indonesia, be consistent.
Indonesia is consistent. The court find CORBY is GUILTY therefore she was sentences 20 years of jail. The court find the person you mentioned NOT GUILTY therefore not sentences
Ahh, my fellow Australians. You make me sick.
Believe all the media hype you will.
But to get racial in your comments? How typically rednecked you are.
"HOW ABOUT YOU GO BACK TO YOUR CORNER SUCK A LITTLE MORE DICK BE4 U FALL DOWN THE DEEP DARK HOLE BECAUSE US AUSSIES ARE NOT SUPPORTING INDONESIA FINANCIALLY ANYMORE!"
If you's all feel this way about Schapelle, will we bring home the Bali 9? Or atleast those found WITHOUT the drugs? Surely if Schapelle was found with drugs, and we see her as "innocent", then the 4 in the hotel WITHOUT drugs would DEFINITELY be innocent?
Or maybe not...after all, they're of asian/indian decent. Why would a redneck Aussie care?
I'm dissapointed in being an Australian right now. My fellow country-men this that they can exert their racial power over another. Maybe Pauline should have been in Parliament after all...she'd be representing those 96% of ill informed individuals.
Simple, she's white. White people are supreme and smarter than us chinese, vietnamese, japanese and other yellow and brown skin people. Isn't that correct mate?
where do you live
Indonesia is consistent. The court find CORBY is GUILTY therefore she was sentences 20 years of jail. The court find the person you mentioned NOT GUILTY therefore not sentences
Is that why Bashir is serving a sentence of 30 months jail? If finding marijuana in someone's bag is a crime, should the punishment fit the crime? Simply confiscating the marijuana and then telling Corby to piss off home, would have been more than enough punishment. As it is, the sentence imposed on Corby is unjustified and pointless. Unjustified because the court could not prove that Corby was the owner of the marijuana. Pointless, because the only lesson learnt in all this is that you can't trust the Indonesian legal system.
I wonder what Chika Honda think about Australian justice system :D
Bashir is guilty for immigration case. Prosecutor failed to link him with Bali bombings. Amrozi cs have death sentences. And Bashir didn't bring 4.1 kg of marijuana when he broke immigration law :D
I wonder what Chika Honda think about Australian justice system
If you are trying to imply that Chika Honda is the victim of injustice from a heroin smuggling charge, then you must think that Corby has some form of injustice perpetrated against her. Otherwise, you wouldn't have used Chika Honda's case as an analogy.
Her father was once caught in possession of drugs, which is ENTIRELY different to dealing. Stop lying.
I only respect justice systems that are worthy of respect. What's next - telling us to respect the laws of Nazi Germany? As a law graduate, I daresay I know far more than this foolish blogmaster.
Did you join the rally outside state parliament in Brisbane? I heard there were only six people there??
No, only Indonesian law, pumpkin.
And, as a law graduate, maybe it's better if you join her legal team or something. Ever heard of actions speak better than words?
well put "anonymous" :)
Kat, this time it's not me who counter you "pumpkin" :p it's surely a joke Kat, don't be angry to me...
Her brother set her up. Isn't it obvious?
Adelaide is thousands of miles from Brisbane.
Corby's got many of Australia's best lawyers helping her out. I've barely even graduated, so I doubt that I'd be of any use to her legal team.
I also have a thought that her brother responsible for this case, that's why it's him who brought the bag and tried to confess it was his bag.
Kat, maybe you want to read this. I thought that you don't want to read anything Indonesian, so giving you an Australian source would be better =)
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,15470184%255E25717,00.html
As for my fellow Indonesians, let's be cool on this. Don't get carried away by anger that will lead to racism or stuffs. Even we're from a "third world" country ( I quoted from the petition in Schapelle's official site, infact they used that term for us a lot ), we can show them that we're civilized enough.
Not all Australians support Corby, and prob not all Indonesians think she's guilty as well. This is life. There's always two sides in every stories.
since when we're not "cool" andy? :)
hey blogmaster.... your blog really consumed my time man hahahha, it's damn addicting lol.
btw thx for the link Andy, =D
fellow indo
Pik,
Yep... i know ;) Just got tired of hearing undecent terms here (a.k.a racist comments) =)
Ray, no problem, glad u like it ;)
ahh andy, so you're the blogmaster.. it's cool andy... ray is right, it consumes my time greatly also, but I like it, we don't have to search other blogs just to say our opinion on this matter. Are you someone who sometimes come to pryd blog too? no matter what, good work buddy! hi to you also ray!
Pik,
No i'm not sweetie =) But i do admire the blogmaster though. Hey, blogmaster, i hope you see this buddy! =)
I saw a lot of sites supporting Corby, and most of them are filled with very annoying comments about Indonesia. It's ok if you want to express your feelings. I'm a pretty ignorant person myself,i think. But after i saw the words written, saying we're just low class Asians (the terms they're using are even more horrible than i just wrote), beggars, brown savage, i couldn't stand it anymore. I love my country, and i'm so proud that we're not easily intimidated by terrors right now =)Take care
No i'm not sweetie =) But i do admire the blogmaster though. Hey, blogmaster, i hope you see this buddy! =)
Thanks man, :) i read every comments that show up on the blog.
Same reason as u. This blog is a prove that it's as easy to say the she's innocent as she is guilty.
As well as easy to trade insults.
Andy,
Our country always makes progress though we're a new over populated country. It makes me proud also. A bright future I hope. Nice to know many people still care to our Indo, as for myself having few hard weeks recently with my researches still I give my little free time to visit this site. Just like you, cannot held myself no more when they say the judges are monkeys, etc. Patience has its limit bro.
Btw, don't call me sweetie, I am "un homme", not "une famme".. :)
well done blogmaster :)
ah this is stronger than coffee.... >.<
pik r u in melb uni? that means a post graduate eh?
well mostly we indos that are here i believe have the same reasons. At least learning the moral subject (ppkn/pmp) is proven not useless hahah
peace =D
No Ray, I'm in Sorbonne, a postgrad student...
take care you people there, don't let them hurt you buddy..:)
whoaa... so sorry pik =) please accept my apology =)
no problem buddy, nice to meet you here...
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,15489344%255E25717,00.html
thanks Alan for the links, I read your opinions as well as Phill, sharp eye, rufoo, and many other's opinions...
many thanks.
here we go again hahhaa -_-"
hi everybody, it looks like the second wave (from many anonymous)has come hasn't it?
just to say hi =D
alanmince, r u an indo?
cheers.. (looks like i'll be visiting this blog for a little longer =])
Ray, some of those anonymous is me hahahaha, couldn't hold myself not to come :D
Pik.
So if I am granted total and complete immunity from any prosecution I can make all sorts of false claims regarding the ownership and placement of the drugs. Then perhaps make a few hundred thousand prostituting myself to 60 minutes, New Idea and every other worthless media outlet.
If ever there was a conspiracy in the Corby case this is it. I believe it's called "conspiring to pervert the course of justice"
The Indon prosecution will tear this crap testimony to pieces.
I am an Australian and regarding those apparently derogatory comments occupying our media in relation to indonesia/indonesians I cannot say I have seen or heard one. Indonesia is always described as just that...INDONESIA, not a "third-world" or lesser country as some propagandists suggested in previous blogs. My personal view is that Schappelle definately has something to answer for and is not telling the whole story, however it is riduculous to give someone such a lenghty sentence (possible life/death) for something that cannot be definitively proven....this case is far too subjective to draw such a dramatic conclusion (such GUILTY and 20 years jail!?!?) There is doubt she is innocent, but much more doubt that she is guilty. I respect all Indonesians and oppose any racism in this blog site (that includes racism towards Australians too!!) That said I think it must be pointed out that there are countless flaws in the Indonesian judicial system that need to be rectified, possibly by an International Council. The main issues being the systems' constant willingness to label people guilty simply to have the case closed and people satisfied that someone is being punished for the crime and no longer a threat to society, simply creating a false calm. Secdonly the judicial system needs to be corrected in its consistency for punishment and verdict. Bashir, without yet been proven, is far more questionable in is innocence than corby, yet the evidence against him is found "in-conclusive" and is slapped on the wrist with an immigration charge and a very very minor jail term??? Yet corby. Whose POSSIBLE crime did not kill scores of innocent people (or plan to) and whose evidence and motive is far less conclusive than that of Bashir receives a GUILTY verdict and a very hefty jail term?? This is what is ridiculous about this whole episode. If consistency was the base line, Indonesian judicial racism/religious discrimination not an issue, and Westerners were given the same evidencial subjectiveness as all races in the Indonesian courts, then Bashir would be hanging off the end of a rope. If it were not for the fact he is Indonesian and also a large influence on many radical/dangerous religious followers, he would be. Racism exists everywhere, Indonesia too blogmaster, so how about we all work to eliminate racism and maybe start with the Indonesian judicial system, while any Aussies who think it is fair too label Indonesians as inferior on this blog can shut their un-educated mouths and think about how their words are making things worse, not better.
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The Indonesian judges even let Corby’s defence team to bring witnesses such as J. Ford (a convicted rapist/criminal) which in Australian system would not be allowed. Any courts anywhere in the world even in Australia would give the same result (if not worse).
Even Australian Foreign Minister admitted that the Corby trial was even more transparent than in Australia. Everybody can watch and follow the trial on the TV in their home, which would not happen in Australia.
DONT ASSUME EVERYTHING IS SO BLACK AND WHITE :o|
In relation to bringing J.Ford in, the Australian system would definately allow such a thing to happen, especially if it could contribute greatly to the proving of one's guilt or innocence. Regardless of his or her criminal status. They have before, they do today and will continue to do so! And regarding a "worse" result in the Australian system, no court in Australia would ever suggest even more than a few years jail sentence for the crime apparently committed by Corby, let alone a life sentence or the suggested death sentence!?!?!
Just because a trial is on TV it does not mean it is transparent. Judges still take recesses and discuss things amongst themselves, among countless other defects in this portrayel. The only reason trials are not televised in Australia is due to the protection and privacy of all witnessess and people testifying as to protect their general safety. Not because of a corrupt system or because there is anything to hide.
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The Indonesian judges even let Corby’s defence team to bring witnesses such as J. Ford (a convicted rapist/criminal) which in Australian system would not be allowed. Any courts anywhere in the world even in Australia would give the same result (if not worse).
Even Australian Foreign Minister admitted that the Corby trial was even more transparent than in Australia. Everybody can watch and follow the trial on the TV in their home, which would not happen in Australia.
DONT ASSUME EVERYTHING IS SO BLACK AND WHITE :o|
In relation to bringing J.Ford in, the Australian system would definately allow such a thing to happen, especially if it could contribute greatly to the proving of one's guilt or innocence. Regardless of his or her criminal status. They have before, they do today and will continue to do so! And regarding a "worse" result in the Australian system, no court in Australia would ever suggest even more than a few years jail sentence for the crime apparently committed by Corby, let alone a life sentence or the suggested death sentence!?!?!
Just because a trial is on TV it does not mean it is transparent. Judges still take recesses and discuss things amongst themselves, among countless other defects in this portrayel. The only reason trials are not televised in Australia is due to the protection and privacy of all witnessess and people testifying as to protect their general safety. Not because of a corrupt system or because there is anything to hide.
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Indonesians shouldn't be upset either about Australians boycotting Bali. Giving the island a bit of a break from rowdy backpackers is not necessarily a bad thing. On the contrary, it would give more room for those nouveaux riches from mainland China and Taiwan who actually seem to enjoy spending their dollars more than sunbathing on the beach, or for the real Europeans from the West who display by far better appreciation of the local culture and possessing finer sensibilities than their more uncouth counterparts from down under.
Let us watch with amusement (if not bemusement) when Australians march on Corby's birthday. We mustn't after all deny them their hunger for a cause celebre and their need for an inspirational figure. Quite the opposite, we should urge Corby's defense counsel to seek a presidential pardon pronto
And who knows, given Corby's increasing popularity and political significance, we might just see her as the next Prime Minister of Australia.
You complain about racism towards Indonesia yet conduct racial torment of your own. Pathetic. I am against all racism. I hate it and believe it is man's ultimate down fall. How dare you label me "rowdy" (I dont drink and am not the lowd/rowdy type) or "unappreciative of local culture" (I indulge in the history and make-up of our world's societies and environments)or label me as an "uncouth counterpart" or as not having "fine sensibilities". I am disappointed and saddened that you joke about corby being our prime minister, like we are that stupid or pretentious. You are a hypocrit and a racist yourself.
If Corby is not guilty Ithink whoever is in charge of her defence should get rid of the the Boof headed mother she has done most of the damage to the defence,apart from big mouthing the Judges and Indonoisia what idiot would bring two of Aust top drug dealers to visit corby she makes two planks look like a Brain Surgen Anyway good luck in your quest. Dobbo Exmouth WA
I don't know enough facts about the whole thing to say she is guilty or not but the idiot who wrote this article only tries to prove wrong the questions he asks. He does not actually include Schapelle's argument, schapelle did not argue that people smuggled drugs in between brisbane and sydney.
'Her agument was that the drugs apeared in her luggage in between brisbane and Bali.'
It was one of the possible reasons as why their could have been drugs in her bag though.
Another suggestion was that curropt police had placed it on her. And yet another that it has been part of an operation by corrupt police to show Australians that Indonesia means business when it comes to drugs smuggling. The reason why people support schapelle is because it is totally non-profitable to take drugs from australia to indonesia, let alone would someone take the risk of smuggling 4.1 kg of marijuana.
The Justice system is based on the rights that someone is guilty only if there is 100% evidence against that person. There should be no question as to the innocense of the person, thus the phrase 'innocent until proven guilty'
If there is still questionabilty to the guilt of a person than they cannot be charged. That is why Australians do not agree with the court decision as it is arguable. There could have been tests to see where the marijuana came from, lie detector tests on schapelle and the police that detained her, instead they found her bags with drugs, said they're are most probably hers and if you take in the circumstance, she is guilty, and in most scenario's of life that is a reasonable way of justifying your decisions. but when the life of somebody is at stake especially in a system of justice, you do not leave question marks and draw conclusions.
whether or not schapelle is guilty or not, there is still the possibilty that she was innocent and therefore people will dispute schapelles case even after she gets out.
The truth is, the argument would not exist if the Indonesian court system as well as the Indonesian police had not of been so arrogant as to just come to the conclusion that schapelle was guilty with the evidence in front of them, they should have gathered more convincing evidence against her to show that there is no doubt that schapelle is guilty and whether or not they are correct, it is immorally wrong to send someone away for 20 years if it possible for them to be innocent, even if it were to undermine your own country as being corrupt.
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